Nov 30, 2010

PLUG: Paragraph Film Reviews

Looking to get as many movie bloggers as possible involved in James Bond January. If those films are your bag, more info on the following post.

http://paragraphfilmreviews.com/2010/10/28/james-bond-january/

If it's not your thing a re-blog or forwarding of the link would be appreciated.

Thanks for your time!

Cheers,

Paul,
Paragraph Film Reviews

Got a Press Release, something to Plug, or a Screener available for review (or some combination of the three)? Ok, don't get all crazy about it. Just click here and give me the details (what, when, where, and a link, for starters) - I'll handle the rest.

Chair #12 starring Edward J. Wood, Jr.

The LAMBs in the Director's ChairThe LAMBs in the
Director's Chair

Event #12 starring
Edward D. Wood, Jr.
Nov. 30th to Dec. 2nd, 2010

Happy holidays everyone! I am unsure if it was poor planning on my part to schedule the twelfth installment of The Director's Chair after the six day extravaganza known to every American as the weekend of Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and Cyber Monday. Due to some reason beyond this immediate scapegoat of a holiday weekend the turnout of participation for the event is extremely low. As a result of low participation I have decreased the number of days from three down to one. Therefore every valid article that has been sent in for the Ed Wood themed Director's Chair event has been listed below for your perusal.

From the blog of Invasion of the B Movies
Review of Bride of the Monster (1955)
Editorial for a remake of Plan 9 from Outer Space

From the blog of Bargain Bin Review
Review of Plan 9 from Outer Space (1958)

From the blog of Random Ramblings of a Demented Doorknob
Review of Plan 9 from Outer Space (1958)

From the blog of Shades of Gray
Editorial of Ed Wood's career
Double feature review: Bride of the Monster and Night of the Ghouls

LAMB #753 - RamblingFilm



URL: http://ramblingfilm.blogspot.com/
Site Name: RamblingFilm
Categories: Reviews, General, Editorials, Awards Coverage
Rating: PG-13

What is the main focus of your site?
To provide movie reviews. I review new movies that are in theaters, independent films that I enjoy, and reviews of films that are already out on DVD. I also like to cover the Oscars, Golden Globes, SAGs, BAFTAs, Emmys, and the Independent Spirit Awards. I post nominees, winners, and my opinions. I also have a few other themed posts that I do.

Nov 29, 2010

PLUG: Above the Line-Practical Movie Reviews

Hey there,

So my film was accepted as part of The Filmpool Film Festival in Saskatchewan, Canada in honor of Jean-Luc Godard's 80th birthday on December 3rd and of course we're excited! Maybe there are some LAMb folks out there in Canada who might actually be able to attend and see it!

The link to my blog with the info about the festival, film, etc is below.

Let me know if you need more info. Thanks!!

Rory

http://rorydean.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/806/

Got a Press Release, something to Plug, or a Screener available for review (or some combination of the three)? Ok, don't get all crazy about it. Just click here and give me the details (what, when, where, and a link, for starters) - I'll handle the rest.

Clash of the Lambs: Sing It For The Boys

The board is set. The pieces are moving. Let there be blood!

What it is LAMBs! Sebastian from Films From the Supermassive Black Hole here, ready to watch you drown in death with another edition of Clash of the Lambs. Every week, I pit character against character, and leave it to you, the voter to decide the victor. What's that? You cheer for blood? By jove, you'll have it!

Before we continue, a recap of last week's fight.

Uh, yeah. Patrick Bateman won. Not surprised there. Jigsaw gets by sneaking up on his victims, capturing them, and forcing them into traps. Well, that plan was screwed from the second the fight started, since Bateman could see his opponent from the start. He just ran up to him, beat him in the head with an axe, all while screaming about reservations at some restaurant, or something like that. Kinda anti-climatic.

The Results
Patrick Bateman: 10 Votes (His was the best business card after all.)
John Kramer aka Jigsaw: 5 Votes (A game he couldn't win.)

Well, people. The time has come. The beginning of this feature highlighted a lot of people and characters who are skilled in the art of death. Put simply, they kill a lot of things in their movies. But, to ask who would win in a fight amongst two killing machines is not the point of this feature. No, the point is to ask, who would win in a fight between two characters who have never held a weapon in their lives. I was testing the waters, seeing how the reception of the feature was. It's been great, so now the real fun can begin. We'll still focus on some great cinematic warriors, but we'll also focus on guys like this.

Musicals have been making a comeback of sorts into the modern day film industry, haven't they. Where once there were none, there are now one of two. Burlesque opened this past weekend, and, despite the fact that it has been reported to suck harder than a Hoover, it tops off the growing trend. This week's fight will focus on two male musical stars, one from way back when, and the one who was responsible for the current uptick. Enjoy.

I can't really say anything to the point here, so I'll just let the contestants sing for themselves.

Fighter 1: Any Fred Astaire Character Ever





Fighter 2: Christian





As always, don't make it popularity contest. You've heard this jargon before. You know the deal. Don't do it!

Once again people, e-mail your damn ideas! I know you have them. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU!!!!

Well, I think everyone's all set. Both men have warmed up their vocal chords sufficiently. The crowd is going nuts. Let's make it happen!

3! 2! 1! FIGHT!!!




Nov 28, 2010

LAMBcast #47: Due Date

Could this be the shortest LAMBcast ever? Dylan, Jess, and...well, that's it! Jess and Dylan tackle Due Date, plus throw in all the other stuff listed below, and manage it all in less than 37 minutes. 'Nuff said.

Also on tap:

* Listener Feedback
* LAMB of the Week
* Trailer Talk: Kung Fu Panda 2
* Remember the Time
For the LAMB of the Week, we take a look at LAMB #341, Screen Insight:


If you'd like your site to be a future LAMB of the Week, hit me up via email and I'll add you to the queue.




If you're interested, you too can be a LAMBcaster - we love new blood! For more information on the LAMBcast, check out the topic at the LAMB Forums. Music provided royalty-free by Kevin MacLeod's Incompetech website. Big thanks to Kevin for providing this service. The LAMBcast loves feedback, too. Either here in the comments section or to blogcabins@yahoo.com or to our Facebook page. Also, we're on iTunes, and would still love a review, even if it's a bad one.

Thanks for listening!

LAMB #752 - My Life, at 24 Frames Per Second



Site URL: http://mylife24fps.blogspot.com/
Site Name: My Life, at 24 Frames Per Second
Categories: Reviews, General, Editorials, Classic Film
Site Rating: PG-13

What is the main focus of your site?My personal explorations in cinema and cinephilia, with occasional detours into theater, music, literature and the news events of the day. For me, life and art are always intersecting.

Nov 27, 2010

Brutally Blunt Blog Blustering #45: The Reeltime Report

It's Blusterin' Time!

And remember: Blustering should be a two-way street; if you've asked to be blustered, you better be a blusterer.

If you're new to this feature or need a refresher, click the label at the bottom of this post and see the first few posts. Otherwise, here are the basics:

What I'll do is list a site; you're asked to critique it. But here's the catch: to induce the most honest reactions, don't leave the comment using your normal alias/login - instead, go anonymous, and be as brutally honest (or complimentary) as you wish to be. Also, be specific, and naturally, don't be rude. If I deem anything inappropriate, I'll have no problem deleting the comment.

So, go to the site listed below, familiarize yourself with it for a few minutes, then come back and leave some constructive criticism and/or comments that you have.

Site: The Reeltime Report
LAMB#: 743
URL: http://reeltimereport.blogspot.com/




If you're up for this treatment for your site (and you're a LAMB), send me an email with the subject "Bluster Me!" If you've already done so, no need to do it again - you're on the list, and these will be going up in order of when I received your email.

Nov 26, 2010

LAMBScores: Monsters


Random Ramblings of a Demented Doorknob
The Dark of the Matinee
Bitchin' Film Reviews
Rachel's Reel Reviews
Pick 'n' Mix Flix


The Ludovico Technique


Average LAMBScore out of five, rounded to nearest half-LAMB: (6 sites)


Median LAMBScore:


Submissions for this film are now closed. To submit your rating & review for other new releases, visit the LAMB Forums (must be an existing LAMB to join).

Nov 24, 2010

LAMB Acting School 101: Jack Nicholson

CS here with all of the submissions for our LAMB Acting School 101 feature on Jack Nicholson! Big thanks goes out to all the sites that sent in their submissions


Articles, Podcasts, and Lists

Nicholas from Cinema Romantico believes that there is some of Chinatown’s Jake Gittes in all of us. He states that Chinatown “says more about life than any movie ever made!”

Although not a big fan of Nicholson, Andrew over at Encore’s World of Film & TV took time to rate five of Jack’s performances. Guess which one got the highest mark?


Reviews

A Few Good Men
The Best Picture Project
Dan the Man’s Movie Reviews

About Schmidt
Dan the Man’s Movie Reviews
Surrender to the Void

As Good As It Gets
Above the Line: Practical Movie Reviews
The Best Picture Project

Batman
Life of a Cinephile and Bibliophile

The Bucket List
Insight Into Entertainment

Chinatown
Surrender to the Void
Life of a Cinephile and Bibliophile

The Departed
Foolish Blatherings
Life of a Cinephile and Bibliophile
The Best Picture Project
Surrender to the Void

Easy Rider
Life of a Cinephile and Bibliophile

Five Easy Pieces
Dan the Man’s Movie Reviews
The Best Picture Project

The Last Detail
Surrender to the Void
Dan the Man’s Movie Reviews

One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest
The Best Picture Project
Life of a Cinephile and Bibliophile

The Passenger
Surrender to the Void

Prizzi’s Honor
Life of a Cinephile and Bibliophile
The Best Picture Project

The Shining
Dan the Man’s Movie Reviews
Life of a Cinephile and Bibliophile

Terms of Endearment
The Best Picture Project

The Terror
Big Thoughts From A Small Mind




Thanks again to all who sent in submissions. Next month's LAMB Acting School 101 subject will be announced in a few days. If you would like to see your favourite actor/actress highlighted in this series, be sure to add their name to the list in the forum section of The LAMB.

Past actors/actresses featured in this column can be found in the LAMB Acting School 101 Archives.

Classic Chops: November 24th

Good news, everyone! We’re back with another streamlined edition of “Classic Chops”…

Site Name: 100 Years of Movies
Daddy Long Legs (1919)
Submitted by: 100 Years of Movies

Site Name: Foolish Blatherings
East of Eden (1955)
Submitted by: Foolish Blatherings

Site Name: CinemaObsessed
Delightful Dialogue: The Spirit of St. Louis
Submitted by: CinemaObsessed

Site Name: The Film Reel
The Kid (1921) – Film Reel Reviews
Submitted by: The Film Reel

Site Name: Misfortune Cookie Blog
Unusual endorsements of the classic stars
Submitted by: Does Writing Excuse Watching?

Classic Chops enthusiastically welcomes any essay or post you’ve composed on a film classic—and even though I originally set the criterion at films released in 1965 and before, I have “cheated” a little and included films after that date that I don’t think too many people would dispute are “classics.” Just remember, send your submissions to classicchops@gmail.com by next Tuesday (November 30) at 6:00pm EDT…and any questions, comments, suggestions and Thanksgiving leftovers should be addressed to that same e-mail address as well. Until next time…see you at the movies!

LAMB #751 - Royale with Cheese



Site URL: http://samlockley.blogspot.com/
Site Name: Royale with Cheese
Categories: Reviews,General, News, Humor, Horror, Classic Film, Lists, Science Fiction
Site Rating: G

What is the main focus of your site?
To make real movie fans aware of special movies - ones which are either exceptionally made, hold great significance or true originality.

Nov 23, 2010

PLUG: Where Danger Lives

Over the next few months on the Where Danger Lives blog, I¹ll be counting
down the 100 greatest posters of film noir. The posters are being considered
on the basis of their artistic merit, concept, memorability, and so forth
‹ not on the quality of the films they represent. For example, the poster
for Double Indemnity, possibly the most iconic and well-known film noir,
didn't make the list. Stop by the blog each week and see what did. Each
poster comes with a brief explanation about why it was included, along with
a hi-res image for download. This is a brand new feature at WDL, and
hopefully one that will be of interest to a broader audience. In the "real
world" I'm a college graphic design professor and a long-time professional
designer, so this feature gives me a chance to mix work and play in an
interesting, and hopefully fun / educational way. The countdown begins on
Black (<--Noir!) Friday, but there's a post up now featuring ten posters
that didn't make the list ‹ and why.

Wheredangerlives.blogspot.com

Thanks!
Mark

Got a Press Release, something to Plug, or a Screener available for review (or some combination of the three)? Ok, don't get all crazy about it. Just click here and give me the details (what, when, where, and a link, for starters) - I'll handle the rest.

LAST Call: LAMB Acting School 101

CS, of Big Thoughts From A Small Mind, here reminding you that today is the last day to submit your articles, reviews, etc. for this month's LAMB Acting School 101 on Jack Nicholson!


What we need from you:
  • Articles on the actor's best performances
  • Articles on the actor's worst performances
  • General thoughts on the actor
  • Podcast, artwork, etc.
  • Reviews of the films the actor has starred in

Once you have the article, review, etc. posted on your blog, send the link to bigthoughtssmallmind@hotmail.com. As always multiple submissions are encouraged. Today is the deadline for submissions!

LAMB Chops: November 23rd



Site Name: Anomalous Material
McAdams Shines in Breazy, Funny "Morning Glory"
Submitted By: Anomalous Material

Site Name: CinemaObsessed.com
Movie Gadgets I Want
Submitted by: CinemaObsessed.com

Site Name: The Silver Screen Addiction
Skyline
Submitted by: The 3rd Reel

Site Name: Cut Print Review
My Mock Screenplay for "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1"
Submitted By: Cut Print Review

Site Name: The 3rd Reel
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part One
Submitted by: The 3rd Reel

If YOU would like to submit a LAMBchop, use the following format:
Site Name:
Post Title:
Link:
Submitted By:

Send them to weeklylambchops@gmail.com by midnight Monday night, EST.

There's also the all-horror edition called Bloody Chops. If you want to submit some for that one, use the same format but email those to bloodychops@gmail.com. You have until midnight Friday night, EST to do so.

Any questions, leave in the comments or send to any of the above emails.
Thanks!
-Jason

Nov 22, 2010

LAMB #750 - Johnny Vengeance



URL: http://www.johnnyvengeance.net/
Site Name: Johnny Vengeance
Categories: Reviews, General, News, Humor, Horror, Lists
Rating: R

What is the main focus of your site?
Providing news about big and small films in an entertaining way.

Director's Chair #12 is One Week Away!

The LAMBs in the Director's ChairThe LAMBs in the Director's Chair
Event #12 starring
Edward D. Wood, Jr.
Nov. 30th to Dec. 2nd, 2010

Submission Deadline
10 PM on November 29, 2010

Submit all articles to...
mattehavoc@gmail.com

Hey everyone it is D.J. Heinlein from the blog site Matte Havoc. Ed Wood may not hold the largest collection of mainstream films that he has directed during his career, but he has garnered a fan following. The twelfth edition of The Director’s Chair featuring his work is scheduled to begin next week. If you have seen any of his films such as Plan 9 from Outer Space (1958) then send in a link to a review. The deadline for submissions is November 29th at 10 PM and the ball field is wide open for participating LAMB sites. The direct link to your article can be submitted to me (DJ) by e-mail to mattehavoc@gmail.com between now and the deadline. More details about this event can be found over at the announcement page which includes a few promotional banners if you would like to place one on your site. Good luck, everyone!

REMINDER: LAMB Chops

Just a reminder to send in those LAMB Chops for tomorrows post! You have until midnight tonight (EST) to send them in! Email them to weeklylambchops@gmail.com

Also, Bloody Chops SHOULD return on Saturday, so send in those horror related Chops by midnight Friday night (EST) to bloodychops@gmail.com.

Thanks!
-Jason

Clash of the Lambs: Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa

The board is set. The pieces are moving. Let there be blood!

What it is LAMBs! Sebastian from Films From the Supermassive Black Hole here, ready to watch you drown in the sweet sounds of pain with another edition of Clash of the Lambs. Every week, I pit character against character, and leave it to you, the voter, to decide the victor. What's that? You cheer for blood? By jove, you'll have it!

But, first a recap!

Last week's brawl was the closest I have seen yet in my ring of epically epic epicness! The two psycho killers stood on either side, readying their weapons of choice. John Doe readied his knife, and checked to make sure his back up pistol was secure. Hannibal readied his eating utensils, and sharpened his carving knife. The battle began. It was too close to call at the outset, with each fighter dealing a blow for everyone that they received. But then, Doe pulled ahead, performing such gruesome acts of punishment on Hannibal that the good doctor almost relented. But, it was not to be. Hannibal mustered up his strength, and was eventually matching Doe, blow for blow, again. But, then, he pulled ahead, by muttering something to JD about how insecure he is or something. This distressed the sinly serial killer, giving Hannibal an opening to deliver the killing blow. His victim at his feet, Hannibal the Cannibal called for a bottle of Chianti and set about doing what he did best. A lot of people had to be escorted out of the arena due to the gruesome nature of the feast.

The Results
Hannibal Lecter: 21 Votes (It's all the protein in human flesh. It gives you an edge.)
John Doe: 18 Votes (Guess he peaked when he killed Mrs. Brad Pitt.)

Well, the demand was just too much, and I was amazed at the turnout of the last one. So, I decided to have another pair of psycho killers go at this week. Both of these guys would have serious beef with the other. One is a narcissistic douche with a horribly cliched taste in music. The other one is on a mission to teach people the errors in their ways. Unfortunately, that usually means killing them in incredibly gory fashion. This one should be fun.

Fighter 1: Patrick Bateman



Meet Patrick. Patrick is a successful Wall Street financier. He is engaged to a pretty woman. He has a close group of friends. He has a bitching apartment, and is in impeccable shape. Unfortunately, he is a narcissistic asshole; he cheats on his fiance with hooker after hooker; he is obsessed with one upping his peers; and he has a habit of butchering people in his apartment. Dude's got some issues. A troubled man with a penchant for murder, Patrick Bateman is skilled in the use of all manner of sharp things that can killer, ranging from axes, to knives, to nail guns. He ain't bad with a pistol either. He would have a real problem with his competition in this fight, as Jigsaw has more of a reputation, which is something that Patrick cannot stand. He must kill off this insect so that he can be top dog. Dude's got some serious issues. 

Fighter 2: John Kramer aka Jigsaw


So, this guy is a bit different. Joh Kramer was just a regular guy, until an event changed his life forever. He now lives to test people, to show them how valuable their lives really are. He's not a killer per-se, but, let's just forget that little tidbit and just drop him into the category for the purposes of the fight. His method of murder is far more elaborate than anyone else's. He designs intricate and brutal traps and tests for his victims to navigate. If they can make it out alive, usually after enduring intense psychological and physical trauma, they have passed. If not, they are either torn limb from limb, melted, decapitated, eviscerated, or other forms of gory death. How he will manage to fight Bateman is a mystery, but, if he is able to get him into a trap, then everyone's favorite Wall Street killer is gonna be in some serious trouble. 

As always, let's not make this a popularity contest. Think it over. Who would actually win? Patrick Bateman may be more capable of a fighter, but, if he falls into one of Jigsaw's traps, then he is done for. Kramer may be more popular, but, Bateman is far greater physical specimen. Who would be the victor, in the real world?

Seriously people! Send me ideas! I can only think of so many. Send an e-mail to sebguts10@yahoo.com or sound off in the comments. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU!

Alright, I think everyone is ready to go. Bateman is sharpening his axe. Jigsaw is building a trap. The crowd is going wild. Let's make it happen!

3! 2! 1! FIGHT!!!





Nov 21, 2010

Pitch the LAMB: Mystery

Hello, CS here with the submissions for our latest edition of the Pitch the LAMB series. Big thanks to those who took the time to send in a pitch. Before we get to the three pitches, here is a reminder of the movie genre and words/phrases:

Movie Genre: Mystery

10 words/phrases to get you started:

  1. Odd time of night to be making house calls...
  2. You’re holding back Ricardo...
  3. Clifford
  4. What was the value of the item?
  5. Shallow Grave
  6. Something smells fishy and it’s not the tuna casserole ...
  7. Suspects
  8. The clues do not add up...
  9. Fingerprints
  10. How come there is no body?

The Pitches:

Woke up in a grave with no recollection of what occurred in the past 72 hours...and that is only the beginning of Clifford’s problems...

Deadly Serious presents "Time Restraint"

When looking for missing suspects it is always important to follow your nose.

Does Writing Excuse Watching? presents "Death of Amy Lamb"

Missing bodies and shallow graves will have you thinking twice about buying a farm in Calvandara County.

Strange Spanners presents "The Shallow Graves of Calvandara County"



Next month's genre will be announced in the coming days. Previous Pitch the LAMB submissions can be found in the here.

PLUG: Phil on Film

At the end of this year, Phil on Film will be running a series of articles covering the best films of the 1990's. I'll be listing my top 50 pictures of the decade, but I'll also be running my first ever readers' poll to list their favourites alongside my own. All are welcome to submit their top 10 lists to me at philipconcannon@gmail.com and if you'd like to add some thoughts or commentary on your choices, please feel free to do so, as I might try to work contributors' comments into the final feature. I'll be accepting lists until December 10th and you can read all of the details here:

http://www.philonfilm.net/2010/11/reviewing-90s-introduction.html

This is the most ambitious project I have attempted since I began Phil on Film and I'd appreciate the support of the LAMB. If you know of anyone else who'd like to get involved, please feel free to send my details on to them.

Thanks,
Phil


Got a Press Release, something to Plug, or a Screener available for review (or some combination of the three)? Ok, don't get all crazy about it. Just click here and give me the details (what, when, where, and a link, for starters) - I'll handle the rest.

Nov 20, 2010

LAMB #749 - Reel 3



URL: http://www.reel3.com/
Site Name: Reel 3
Categories:Reviews, General, Editorials, Classic Film
Rating: PG-13

What is the main focus of your site?
My primary focus is on film criticism rather than reviews and I tend to write about the specific elements of a film that have driven me to watch it repeatedly (like the way subjectivity is handled in Psycho, or the way Watchmen exploits violence).

Clash Of The Lambs: PSA

The board is set. The pieces are moving. Let there... oh, screw it.

Hey all. Sebastian from Films From the Supermassive Black Hole here with a quick update on this weeks bout. We currently have a tie. Both Hannibal and John Doe are enjoying a take of 50% of the votes each. This will not do. Ties are not accepted in my ring of infinitely awesome pain!! You have one more day to vote. If you have not, I urge you to. Only one can win. Make it count! Do your part! Let's do this! \m/ \m/





LAMBcast #46: Whatcha Been Watchin' Lately?

An under-the-weather Dylan (host), Nick, James and Rachel chat up their recent viewings, from the divisive Southland Tales to Hereafter to Harold and Maude to The Baker.

Also on tap:

* Listener Feedback
* LAMB of the Week
* Trailer Talk: Hall Pass
* Last LAMB Standing

For the LAMB of the Week, we take a look at LAMB #643, From the Depths of DVD Hell:


If you'd like your site to be a future LAMB of the Week, hit me up via email and I'll add you to the queue.




If you're interested, you too can be a LAMBcaster - we love new blood! For more information on the LAMBcast, check out the topic at the LAMB Forums. Music provided royalty-free by Kevin MacLeod's Incompetech website. Big thanks to Kevin for providing this service. The LAMBcast loves feedback, too. Either here in the comments section or to blogcabins@yahoo.com or to our Facebook page. Also, we're on iTunes, and would still love a review, even if it's a bad one.

Thanks for listening!

Nov 19, 2010

LAMBScores: Paranormal Activity 2 and Hereafter


JoelCrary.com
Random Ramblings of a Demented Doorknob
Dan The Mans Movie Reviews
The Movie Encyclopedia


That Was Junk
Gatto Reels


Cinema Sights
The Ludovico Technique


Bitchin' Film Reviews


The Intermittent Sprocket
CinemaObsessed.com


Average LAMBScore out of five, rounded to nearest half-LAMB: (11 sites)


Median LAMBScore:


Submissions for this film are now closed. To submit your rating & review for other new releases, visit the LAMB Forums (must be an existing LAMB to join).

See what our fellow movie lovers at Total Film had to say about Paranormal Activity 2:





Bitchin' Film Reviews


The Dark of the Matinee


That Was Junk
Marshall and the Movies


JoelCrary.com


Not Just Movies


Average LAMBScore out of five, rounded to nearest half-LAMB: (6 sites)


Median LAMBScore:


Submissions for this film are now closed. To submit your rating & review for other new releases, visit the LAMB Forums (must be an existing LAMB to join).